Beauty and Catholics
a)
Earlier, I said I would respond to Jon (about Sex and the City), and now it has been a long time. Here is a quick response:
Jon points out:
"it certainly makes me laugh seeing as how every other week an apparently "innocuous" comedy is being released and reviewed by Christianity Today (which I follow) without any reader uproar".
Good point. It is unfair to make Sex and the City more evil than other movies because it has the word "Sex" in it. However, even the positive review in CT listed enough negative content that I don't think the movie should be viewed by Christians (except maybe by Christian movie reviewers so they can tell us to avoid the movie). Is this just crazy fundamentalism? No. Explanation to come.
Here's what Jon says about film (on behalf of many others):
"we don't try to "justify" these films to our Christian friends by saying we're only observing them at an arm's length to "gain knowledge" on culture, we experience these films intensely and viscerally and in doing so are often presented with some of the most profound and empathetic truths we've ever encountered buried beneath all the dirt and muck"
Here is my problem. This is not about moralism vs. beauty. This is about lesser beauty vs. greatest beauty. Do I need to watch the movie so that I can experience the inner desire for love that thrusts these women into (supposedly) hilarious situations? Do I need to watch the movie to taste the sweetness of their enduring friendship despite the changes that occur in their lives?
Well,
i) I don't need a movie to know about people. John Macarthur (or another faithful pastor) knows much more about people than could be drawn out of this hbo-tv series-turned-movie . Why? Because he lives with them and ministers to them and cares for them. That's how we should ultimately experience people, not through movies.
and ii) Beyond all the obvious reasons for not watching this movie (it promotes disgusting sexual sin and could cause many to lust*), the greatest Truth in the world is God. The greatest beauty in the world is the beauty of God. I am no stranger to movies, tv shows, and music that attempts to find beautiful insights about man in the midst of a sinful world. Is it worth it?
My experience is that the more you spend with your mind enveloped in the things of this world, the less you will be able to experience the greatest Beauty - the Beauty found in the Word of God. The Beauty of the Cross. I have no doubt that a full day with the season one dvd set of Sex and the City will make your soul shrink in its experience of God. There's a word for this - Sin. We weren't made to find joy pondering insights about man, we were made to be satisfied in beholding God.
*Here is a review that goes into non-graphic detail of the negative content of the film. It speaks for itself.
b)
Onto another discussion - over the last year, I've realized that I need to be better about confronting the question of Roman Catholicism. Should I be happy when I meet a devout Catholic? Should I just try to challenge some of their ideas? Should I try to share the Gospel?
There's a really good video on Youtube that I'd recommend. Here's one of the most interesting parts.
One thing that is clear - Evangelicals (those who believe in the Gospel of the Reformation) must firm up their understanding of the issues. Too many say "they believe in Jesus, I believe in Jesus, let's just agree to disagree", but they have no idea what they're disagreeing about. We must be prepared to give an answer, so that we will be able to stand firm and defend the precious Truths that bring Eternal Life.
Earlier, I said I would respond to Jon (about Sex and the City), and now it has been a long time. Here is a quick response:
Jon points out:
"it certainly makes me laugh seeing as how every other week an apparently "innocuous" comedy is being released and reviewed by Christianity Today (which I follow) without any reader uproar".
Good point. It is unfair to make Sex and the City more evil than other movies because it has the word "Sex" in it. However, even the positive review in CT listed enough negative content that I don't think the movie should be viewed by Christians (except maybe by Christian movie reviewers so they can tell us to avoid the movie). Is this just crazy fundamentalism? No. Explanation to come.
Here's what Jon says about film (on behalf of many others):
"we don't try to "justify" these films to our Christian friends by saying we're only observing them at an arm's length to "gain knowledge" on culture, we experience these films intensely and viscerally and in doing so are often presented with some of the most profound and empathetic truths we've ever encountered buried beneath all the dirt and muck"
Here is my problem. This is not about moralism vs. beauty. This is about lesser beauty vs. greatest beauty. Do I need to watch the movie so that I can experience the inner desire for love that thrusts these women into (supposedly) hilarious situations? Do I need to watch the movie to taste the sweetness of their enduring friendship despite the changes that occur in their lives?
Well,
i) I don't need a movie to know about people. John Macarthur (or another faithful pastor) knows much more about people than could be drawn out of this hbo-tv series-turned-movie . Why? Because he lives with them and ministers to them and cares for them. That's how we should ultimately experience people, not through movies.
and ii) Beyond all the obvious reasons for not watching this movie (it promotes disgusting sexual sin and could cause many to lust*), the greatest Truth in the world is God. The greatest beauty in the world is the beauty of God. I am no stranger to movies, tv shows, and music that attempts to find beautiful insights about man in the midst of a sinful world. Is it worth it?
My experience is that the more you spend with your mind enveloped in the things of this world, the less you will be able to experience the greatest Beauty - the Beauty found in the Word of God. The Beauty of the Cross. I have no doubt that a full day with the season one dvd set of Sex and the City will make your soul shrink in its experience of God. There's a word for this - Sin. We weren't made to find joy pondering insights about man, we were made to be satisfied in beholding God.
*Here is a review that goes into non-graphic detail of the negative content of the film. It speaks for itself.
b)
Onto another discussion - over the last year, I've realized that I need to be better about confronting the question of Roman Catholicism. Should I be happy when I meet a devout Catholic? Should I just try to challenge some of their ideas? Should I try to share the Gospel?
There's a really good video on Youtube that I'd recommend. Here's one of the most interesting parts.
One thing that is clear - Evangelicals (those who believe in the Gospel of the Reformation) must firm up their understanding of the issues. Too many say "they believe in Jesus, I believe in Jesus, let's just agree to disagree", but they have no idea what they're disagreeing about. We must be prepared to give an answer, so that we will be able to stand firm and defend the precious Truths that bring Eternal Life.
5 Comments:
At 7:53 AM, Unknown said…
Adam, my previous post had nothing to do specifically with Sex & the City. I suppose I should have made that more clear. I don't know if I'm prepared to defend that particular movie as "art".
My reply was simply to point out that was has come out of all this SATC hoopla is that there is a fundamental issue of art vs morality/beauty. You make good points against SATC but what about other movies? Surely there is a possibility that there exist films/books/songs that MacArthur or Piper might think are abhorrible that you might defend as worthy. What do you do then? By that same token, there are surely films which CT feel are not worthy of even being reviewed, and so they don't.
Everyone is bound to have disagreements with someone else about the merits of another film from a Christian perspective. That's cool. What's not cool however is one Christian organization (focus on the family) saying of another one (CT) that it "relishes sexual perversion". I know that I would be pretty angry if that's the conclusion a fellow Christian came to of me simply because I said I enjoyed and found value in the SATC movie. That is complete self-righteousness and the fact that they have not backed down from that statement (as far as I know) makes me extremely angry. The fact that what has come out of all this so far seems to have more to do with dragging CT's name through the mud rather than promoting intelligent discussion is what's truly abhorrible to me.
This is Christian film critic (and freelancer for CT films) Jeffrey Overstreet's response to the SATC controversy.
And one reason why I respect his opinion actually is because years back, he posted publically on his blog why he would not see the movie 300 precisely for the same sort of reasons being discussed.
-Jon
At 7:57 AM, Unknown said…
Sorry, one last thing from Overstreet which I think sums things up pretty well:
As a film reviewer, I'm looking for truth and beauty at the movies. I'm not interested in doing what most who declare themselves "Christian movie reviewers" do (counting cuss words, condemning movies that include sexual references, or protesting portrayals of violence). I believe good art reflects the world around us, specifically or abstractly, and I believe artists have the right to show us both the beautiful and the ugly aspects of life. What I'm concerned about is excellence in craftsmanship, apprehension of beauty, the search for truth, and behaving responsibly in view of what we behold in art. I've discovered profound truth in the darkest and most violent of films, in the loudest and angriest music, just as truth can be found in the darkest and most violent stories of the Bible.
But I am not saying every piece of work is okay for every person. I believe that all things are permissible, but not all things are profitable, and I should make sure that I choose to dwell only on what is worthy of praise. How can I find out what those things are if I do not test them, one by one?
It is up to each viewer to use discernment in what they choose to see, being careful not to watch things that will play to their weaknesses. I wouldn't give a bottle of whiskey to a recovering alcoholic, so I wouldn't recommend Closer to someone who is prone to lustful thoughts, or Apocalypse Now to someone deeply troubled by violent imagery. I believe it is a parent's responsiblity to protect their children from things they are not prepared to see and understand. The ocean is a wonderful place, but I wouldn't let a toddler play at the edge of it unsupervised.
At 8:50 AM, monica said…
Hey Adam! Re: your last post on my page: I did respond to your last comment on my blog on my comments sections as well-- thanks for the heads up, however my uncle and I were definitely aware of that:)
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